YET Another Version of the Kalam Cosmological Brain Diarrhea
Just With Piles More Brain Diarrhea
Frank, why make your self look even stupider by making another version of the Kalam argument that has been completely debunked over 500 years ago? Ain’t that self-defeatist; thus, making your self look stupider? You can never undebunk a completely debunked argument. Transliterating and adding brain diarrhea to it only makes you look more and more retarded.
BTW, the universe ain’t “fine-tuned”. It only SEEMS that way. In FACT, it is other way around. WE have “fine-tuned” to what the universe gave us. The big bang settled into the fundamental forces (FFs) as they are today. During the intitial big bang, these FFs did not exist. As the energy of the big bang dissipated, entropy also decreased, bringing about some order. I am not sure how soon after the big bang that FFs settled into their current values. It weren’t no God-Thing fiddling around with a bunch of dials. We may not fully understand how the FFs became what they are, but top scientists are still working on it. Essentially, once entropy lowered enough, the FFs began their work.
-By Frank Turek
When I debated atheist Christopher Hitchens, one of the eight arguments I offered for God’s existence was the creation of this supremely fine-tuned universe out of nothing (THAT is a claim, not argument.). I spoke of the five main lines of scientific evidence—denoted by the acronym SURGE—that point to the definite beginning of the space-time continuum. They are: The Second Law of Thermodynamics, the Expanding Universe, the Radiation Afterglow from the Big Bang Explosion, the Great galaxy seeds in the Radiation Afterglow, and Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity.
You like harping on your debate with Christopher Hitchens, and I know why. Being a Religitard, you are too stupid to know why you are so hung-up on your debate with Christopher Hitchens. For me to tell you why, you will have to pay my hefty psychiatrist fee. 7734, I spent years of studying abnormal psychology in order to understand what happened to me. I should get some recompense for all that arduous work. Your SURGE bullshit does not work. Here is what I found about this.
Acronym - S.U.R.G.E. Proves God-Thing Created the Universe
I simply provide True Logic answers to each above. My requirement is for Frank Turek to do the True Research to find out why 4 of 5 above is False. A proof that Religitards do not know how to do True Research. Thus, Frank Turek will not do the True Research since he no longer possesses the mental faculties to do True Research.
While I don’t have space to unpack this evidence here (see I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist), it all points to the fact that the universe began from literally nothing physical or temporal. Once there was no time, no space, and no matter and then it all banged into existence out of nothing with great precision.
If you want me to see your evidence, why not offer I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist free of any charge? I have written several science-based and anti-religionist books and never charged a penny. I told persons if they found my Horse Hoowhee, Bullshit, and Brain Diarrhea of any worth, then donate what they feel the book was worth to a worthy cause such as the American Cancer Society, Duke Medical Center, St. Jude’s Children Research Hospital, VA Hospitals, and/or Arthritis Foundation. I always feel that knowledge should be free, as in free pizza and free beer. Thus, why can I not get your Horse Hoowhee, Bullshit, and Brain Diarrhea in I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist for free? I ain’t paying for something that turns out to be complete garbage to be thrown into File 13. dev/null. I stopped buying Religitard books because they are complete religious garbage. They offer nothing to further the Human Knowledge Base.
And about this assertion: Once there was no time, no space, and no matter and then it all banged into existence out of nothing with great precision. Completely, Utterly, Totally, Absolutely FALSE. And you have no way of understanding why this assertion is utterly false. You do not possess the mental abilities. You have destroyed your prefrontal cortex as all Religitards do with your decades long inexorable beLIEfs. BeLIEfs that have no reasoning, no rationality, no logic, no deduction, no critical thinking, no sanity. You may have imagination and invention, but it is very perverted and twisted. And this preceding assertion: …it all points to the fact that the universe began from literally nothing physical or temporal. Again, Completely, Utterly, Totally, Absolutely FALSE. It is ONLY you stupid Religitards that suggest scientists beLIEve the Big Bang began from Nothing. Here is a FACT for you, “nothing” itself actually has NEVER existed. Nothing is an abstract concept that exists only within our tiny miscreant minds. In True Reality, “nothing” does not exist.
“Nothing” is the complete absence of any physical object and anything with properties (gravity, radiation, weak force, et cetera, et alia). Thus, being at best an abstract mental concept, it does not exist in our universe.
The evidence led astronomer Dr. Robert Jastrow, who until his recent death was the director of the Mount Wilson observatory once led by Edwin Hubble, to author a book called My God-Thing and the Astronomers. Despite revealing in the first line of chapter 1 that he was personally agnostic about religious matters, Jastrow reviewed some of the SURGE evidence and concluded, “Now we see how the astronomical evidence leads to a biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy.”
Jastrow was a retarded arse, just like ALL you Religitards. He may have been able to keep his religiosity out of his official science work, but he never, ever, forgot to remind everyone of his religiosity when speaking personally. THAT made him a Religitard. And remember Religitards do not qualify as “human”. Why? Religitards cannot think. If cannot think, then not human. And since your Religitardism causes inhumane and criminal behaviour, they are less than animals. Animals have better manners. Your quoted Jastrow assertion is proof that a Religitard cannot think, let alone critically. And with all Religitards pretending to do science, he went into everything he did with the premise, “If I cannot find an answer, my God-Thing must have done it.” This is why I say Religitards are incredibly stupid. They always assume the conclusion, then look for OHEFE they can pervert and twist into a hideous monster. Then they apply their beguiling semantics and prestidigitative dialect to make their Brain Diarrhea seem beLIEvably true. Then they add the icing of psychological terrorism known as Empathic Predation. Forcing YOU to use your emotions to override your intellect.
Additionally, I have spoken personally a few times with Jastrow. He was NEVER a true scientist. He dwelled upon finding proof his God-Thing existed. He could never speak informally without trying to convince every one he was correct that God-Thing existed. That is where the problem lies. Not one Religitard can ever speak without also proselytizing and evangelizing. Why is that? The mental disorder of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Frank, here are a few quotes I have seen publicly displayed, or graffitied, in my travels. I want you to truly try to think these through:
The main problem with Religitards is that they cannot wrap their minds around the “It just IS. It just came to be” concept. Why quibble over your desire to assign Purpose and Meaning and Intent and Design to absolutely everything? Why cannot no Religitards just accept the FACT, IT IS. Why must everything have a purpose? In True Reality, there is no purpose to existence other than IT IS. It is like Life. Life just came to be. And I know how Abiogenesis occurred, but Frank Turek is too stupid to know. Life just is. Life consumes Life. Life serves NO purpose other than it is. Life itself DOES NOT give a damn whether you or I are dead or alive. Life, Reality, Existence does not have ANY purpose other than it “came to be”.
Frank, this alone is proof you ARE a mental retard. Since you cannot grasp the simplest of truths, you ARE mentally retarded. No way you were ever a Naval Aviator. You have been too mentally retarded your entire life to have been anything other than the sorry lying sack of shit that you are. Something to be swept to the curb and washed away. This also includes all your butt-buddies: Matt Slick, Bill Craig, Ken Ham, Kent Hovind, Kenneth Copeland, Stephen Meyers, Michael Behe, Bill Dempski, and too many others to list. You are all sorry lying sacks of shit who have absolutely no understanding of True Reality. Not a god-damned one of you know how to speak truthfully. RDTD.
One thing science proved with brain scans is that Religitards, even when they are speaking truth, still process that truth as if it were a lie. Think on that. Proven FACT. If you lying sacks of shit wish to speak/write about science, why do none of you actually study up on that science? Blurting your LIES only shows Religitard stupidity, idiocy, lack of knowledge, and mental retardation. And you dumb arse Religitards PURPOSEFULLY cause your own self-inflicted brain damage.
In an interview, Jastrow went even further, admitting that “Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act of creation to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth Earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover... That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.”
And yet, we have found enough that completely debunks that Jastrow assertion. Frank, are you too stupid to do True Research? Perhaps you should hire a True Scientist instead of relying on other Religitard brain diarrhea. Then again, there are no True Scientists stupid enough to accept your bribes.
Jastrow was not alone in evoking the supernatural to explain the beginning. Athough he found it personally “repugnant,” General Relativity expert Arthur Eddington admitted the same when he said, “The beginning seems to present insuperable difficulties unless we agree to look on it as frankly supernatural.”
And when was that said? At least somewhat before 1944; Arthur Eddington: 28 December 1882 – 22 November 1944. And what in 7734 did he know of cosmology back then? Nothing, or very little. The ONLY time a scientist may wax religious is when s/he has reached the limits of their understanding. When that happens, even I may wax religious. BUT, that by no means, means I am siding with religion. The existence of a God-Thing I SHALL never admit until I am presented with irrefutable OHEFE. Also, just means I must refine my question. Dig deeper…
Why do all Religitards quote mine from persons many decades dead? Why are you not searching for more modern data? Too complicated for you to understand? We still do not KNOW that the universe ever had a beginning. 7734, we do not know if it will have an ending. Do True Research. Dumb Arse.
Now why would scientists such as Jastrow and Eddington admit, despite their personal misgivings, that there are “supernatural” forces at work? Why couldn’t natural forces have produced the universe? Because there was no nature and there were no natural forces ontologically prior to the Big Bang—nature itself was created at the Big Bang. That means the cause of the universe must be something beyond nature—something we would call supernatural.
The only reason is the same reasons Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton invoked the “god-of-the-gaps” when they had reached the limits of their science. And it is this FACT you Religitards use the same tactics. Except, your “god-of-the-gaps” tactics are cruel, barbarous, vicious, sadistic, inhumane, fell, and brutal. Modern Religitards use their “god-of-the-gaps” to levels that are abusive beyond the mortal kin. You Religitards are sadistic monsters in the way you use your “god-of-the-gaps”. You Religitards are mentally perverted and twisted. “How Inexorable Religious Beliefs Should Be Reclassified in the DSM-IV”, a dissertation I wrote that forced the university to take legal injunctions against me. Simply because I did PROVE that “inexorable religious beLIEfs” ARE a mental disorder.
It also means that the supernatural cause of the universe must at least be:
Unsubstantiated Assertion. There is no MUST.
What does that mean? Unsubstantiated = “unsupported by any evidence”; Assertion = “a declaration that is made emphatically (emotionally; The Animal Side) as if true with no supporting evidence”. See at least I define to prevent ambiguity.
Any Thing that is defined as “spaceless”, “immaterial” and “timeless” already proves ITs non-existence. ITs “Never-Existed” existence. And if IT cannot exist, then it sure as 7734 ain’t powerful, intelligent, or personal. It flamboozles me why every person cannot see religion’s lies for the lies they are. For me, it is like a HUD system that discriminates against harmful persons. No person can say or write any lie without my being able to see it as a lie right away. I have never had any person capable of telling me a lie made beLIEvable. I spot the lie instantly. I have been too-well trained in spotting the difference between make-beLIEve fantasies and actual True Evidence.
Those are the same attributes of the God-Thing in that bible-thingy.
And the many other thousands of factors y’awl have added to that God-Thing simply means the probability of ITs existence is essentially, ZERO. Remember: 0 ≤ N < 1?
I mentioned in the debate that other scientists who made Big-Bang-related discoveries also conclude that the evidence is consistent with the bible-thingy story. Robert Wilson—co-discoverer of the Radiation Afterglow, which won him a Noble Prize in Physics— observed, “Certainly there was something that set it off. Certainly, if you’re religious, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match with Genesis.” George Smoot—co-discoverer of the Great Galaxy Seeds which won him a Nobel Prize as well—echoed Wilson’s assessment by saying, “There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the Big Bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.”
And I guarantee those were off-the-cuff remarks. Even I have said, “That Planck Time unit we still have yet to pierce, almost seems as if there may have been a creator.” A God-Thing. However, if there was such an entity, then it sacrificed itself to create this universe. Thus, it is moot to dwell on any such idea. “Since it cannot be proven, YET; to pull the “god-of-the-gaps” card is like premature ejaculation.” And, yes, I did say that to an audience. I also explained that I shall speak in whatsoever way I wish to speak. If it is offensive to you, then the problem is you, not me. Only YOU have the power to give anything the power to be offensive for ONLY YOU.
I would love to see the entire context you quote-mined. Probably find those scientists were simply appeasing you Religitards. Perhaps to get some of the more intelligent and knowledgeable beLIEvers to read their books. Not just buy it, BUT to read it.
How did Hitchens respond to this evidence? Predictably, he said that I was “speculating” (which is exactly what you offer: a tsunami of speculation)—that no one can get behind the Big Bang event. I say “predictably” because that’s exactly the response Dr. Jastrow said is common for atheists who have their own religion—the religion of science.
Something Neil deGrasse Tyson once said, horribly paraphrased:
“How many times have you EVER seen a scientist trying to tear down the doors of a church in order to teach the religious science? NONE! Yet those same religious people are forcing their way into the science classroom in order to enforce the teaching of their beLIEfs.”
Science ain’t a religion. It is an arse-busting job. Incredibly difficult and arduous. Have you ever done anything science, Frank? I have for over half a century. AND, I also served in the USN. AND, I was forced to wear two hats: CPO and PO1. And journal papers ain’t easy either. Jastrow, as said, is a Religitard arsehole. As others of your ilk, Jastrow was too stupid to be able to keep his religiosity and his science separate. Religion poisons everything.
Jastrow is even quoted as saying, horribly paraphrased again, “I refuse to release my religious beliefs as I ponder the sky. It is obvious there was a creator.” Hmm…
Jastrow wrote, “There is a kind of religion in science... every effect must have its cause; there is no First Cause... This religious faith of the scientist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not valid, and as a product of forces or circumstances we cannot discover. When that happens, the scientist has lost control. If he really examined the implications, he would be traumatized. As usual when faced with trauma, the mind reacts by ignoring the implications—in science this is known as “refusing to speculate.” Let us rip this bullshit to shreds.
Jastrow wrote, “There is a kind of religion in science... every effect must have its cause False; there is no First Cause... This religious faith of the scientist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning We still do not know this is true. under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not valid The KNOWN Principles of Physics as understood, you mean. , and as a product of forces or circumstances we cannot (have yet to) discover. When that happens, the scientist has lost control. Actually, it is the reverse that is true if you care to try and think critically AND possess the knowledge. If he really examined the implications, he would be traumatized. “he” Who? You lost me. Please redefine. As usual when faced with trauma, the mind reacts by ignoring the implications NOT! always.–in science this is known as “refusing to speculate.” However; speculation is just a lie. A fantasization. NEW WORD. Speculation of the future has a very poor track record. You horse gamblers should already know this. Look at the 1939 World’s Fair. Nothing “speculated” in that fair about the future has EVER come true.
YES! We can speculate. But this is nothing more that fantasization. If it comes true. KEWL! If not, oh well… The only thing that came somewhat true from a prediction of mine hypothesis of the future was the FACT of smart phones. I was telling persons, even before High School, we shall have computers the size of credit cards. I was saying this as far back as 1973. Yes, a Ripley’s. I had been saying that for what? 30 years before the smart phone was built. It was already imagined AND invented with Star Trek: The Next Generation (STTNG). Look at the PADDs they used. PADD = Personal Access Data Device. Now you know what I mean by PADD. And they had to be quite robust considering the way they tossed them about sometimes.
Talk about retarded… Can you not see how Jastrow allowed his religiosity to poison his science? If not, then you are stupider than you look.
Hitchens admits the evidence but ignores its implications in order to blindly maintain his own religious faith (watch the entire debate at CrossExamined.org here). Of which, you lost. How is it speculation to say that since all space, time, and matter were created that the cause must be spaceless, timeless and immaterial? IOW: Pure fantasy. Spaceless, timeless, immaterial means nonexistent. If nonexistent, then IT can do nothing. That’s not speculation, but following the evidence where it leads. And where is your evidence? Ain’t seen none. That IS NOT following evidence. IT IS pure fantasization. You are fantasizing how your beLIEfs ARE to be interpreted. At least my bullshit is backed by mountains of OHEFE. Provided a person knew how to do True Research with this WWW tool. The greatest Fact Check tool ever invented. When you research with the pretense of “How can I prove my God-Thing does exist?” is so complete arse-backwards, I have no need to disprove. It debunks ITself.
How can something that IS NOT, create anything? How do you know that the THING known as the Big Bang must be these NOT-things you call spaceless, timeless, immaterial, voidless? This is only proof of how the Religitard devises beLIEvable prevarications.
Dr. Jastrow, despite his agnosticism, told us where the evidence leads. He ended his book this way: “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”
ROFLMAOWF. tries rereading. ROFLMAOWF. calls EMTs… … “I think I broke something…”
— The Unknown Atheist
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